Professor Gordon Flake Interviews Josh Rogin

Professor Gordon Flake interviewed Josh Rogin, an American journalist and columnist for the Global Opinions section of The Washington Post and Political Analyst with CNN, on the release of his new book, “Chaos Under Heaven: Trump, Xi, and the Battle for the Twenty-First Century.” Their discussion focused on the US-China relationship amid the Trump and Biden administrations. In addition, their discussion expanded to cover Australia-China relations and what lessons there are to be had for Biden and his team in shaping the US strategy toward China.